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1946
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Buyers Products is a privately held, fully integrated manufacturer of truck and trailer equipment founded in 1946 and headquartered in Mentor, Ohio. The company designs, engineers, manufactures, and assembles its products in the United States across a broad portfolio organized around branded product lines: SnowDogg snow plows (V-blades, straight blades, municipal plows for trucks, UTVs, and skid steers), SaltDogg spreaders (tailgate, hopper, municipal, anti-ice, and pre-wet systems), ScoopDogg snow pushers for backhoes, loaders, and skid steers, DumperDogg hydraulic dump inserts for pickup trucks, and a comprehensive range of truck tool boxes, lighting, towing, hydraulics, tarp systems, and cargo control products.

The company's technology is rooted in mechanical, hydraulic, and electrical engineering for heavy-duty vehicle applications, including proprietary features such as the RapidLink quick-attach plow mounting system and motorized dump inserts (3 HP Monarch motor, 6,000 lb payload capacity). Buyers Products sells exclusively through an authorized dealer network across the United States (no direct-to-consumer e-commerce), with a Where To Buy/Dealer Locator on its website, trade show presence at Work Truck Show, APWA PWX, NATDA, and EMTSP National Show, and a Sourcewell cooperative contract that facilitates municipal and government procurement. Pricing is quote-based and not publicly disclosed, products are sold as one-time hardware purchases with no recurring subscription component, and the company has recently introduced financing options for snow and ice equipment.

The customer base spans four primary segments: municipalities and government agencies (snow and ice management on public roads), contractors and landscapers (commercial snow removal and material hauling), property managers (commercial property snow removal), and individual pickup truck owners (residential snow removal, tool storage, and cargo management). Vehicle compatibility is engineered for major OEMs including Ford, GM/Chevrolet, and RAM as core fitments, with additional coverage for Jeep, Toyota, Nissan, Kubota, Polaris, Can-Am, John Deere, and Bobcat. The company is currently expanding its Mentor manufacturing facility to more than double its plant size, indicating a capacity-build trajectory consistent with sustained operational scale.

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Buyers Products is a privately held, USA-based manufacturer of heavy-duty truck and trailer equipment, founded in 1946, selling SnowDogg snow plows, SaltDogg spreaders, DumperDogg dump inserts, and truck tool boxes through a United States dealer network to municipalities, contractors, property managers, and individual pickup truck owners.

Operating statusenum
Operating
Ownership categoryenum
Headcount rangeband
251–500
akta.pro rankint
HeadquartersMentor, United States
HQ citystring
Mentor
HQ countrystring
United States
HQ regionstring
North America
Markets served

Serves global market

Offices1 record

Each record includes

City, Country, Type, Description, Source

Keyword5 values
truck equipment manufacturing, snow plow manufacturing, salt spreader equipment, hydraulic dump inserts, truck tool boxes
NAICS code2 codes
  • Hardware Merchant Wholesalers423710
  • Service Establishment Equipment and Supplies Merchant Wholesalers42385
SIC code2 codes
  • Wholesale-Hardware5072
  • Wholesale-Professional & Commercial Equipment & Supplies5040
Product category
Commercial Truck Equipment Manufacturing
Social media profiles1 record
GTM motion1 record

Each record includes

Type, Description, Source

Revenue model1 record
1Hardware/Equipment Sales
TypeHardware Sales
Description

Sale of physical truck equipment products including snow plows, spreaders, dump inserts, tool boxes, lighting, towing equipment, and accessories. Products are sold as one-time purchases with no recurring subscription component.

buyersproducts.com
Marketing channels5 records

Each record includes

Title, Type, Stage, Description, Source

Distribution channels1 record

Each record includes

Title, Type, Scope, Target buyer, Description, Source

Cost components6 values
Supply Chain, Personnel, Operations, Technology or R&D, Marketing or Sales, Infrastructure
Pricing details1 tier
1Product pricing varies by category and specifications
ModelUnit PricingBilling cadencePay-as-you-go
Notes

Individual product pricing based on category, size, and material. No subscription or recurring fees. Financing options available.

buyersproducts.com
GTM typeB2B
B2B
Offering typeHardware or Manufacturing
Hardware or Manufacturing
Brand1 of 6 records shown
1SnowDogg
Description

Snow plow brand for trucks, UTVs, and skid steers, featuring various models including V-blades and straight blades for commercial and residential snow removal applications.

buyersproducts.com
+5 more records
Core offering1 text field

Buyers Products is a fully integrated USA-based manufacturer of commercial truck and trailer equipment, designing and producing snow plows (SnowDogg), salt and material spreaders (SaltDogg), snow pushers (ScoopDogg), hydraulic dump inserts (DumperDogg), truck tool boxes, lighting, towing, hydraulics, tarp systems, and cargo control products at its Mentor, Ohio facility. The company sells its products primarily through an authorized dealer network across the United States, serving municipalities, contractors, landscapers, and individual truck owners.

Differentiator
Functional benefit
Problem solved
Quantifiable outcome1 of 3 values shown
  • DumperDogg max payload capacity of 6000 lb with up to 3 cubic yards
+2 more records
Product overview1 text field

Buyers Products is a fully integrated manufacturer and leader in the truck equipment industry, founded in 1946. The company offers a comprehensive portfolio of branded products organized around commercial truck, trailer, and snow/ice equipment applications. The core product lines include SnowDogg snow plows (V-blades, straight blades, municipal plows for trucks, UTVs, and skid steers), SaltDogg spreaders (tailgate, hopper, municipal, anti-ice systems), ScoopDogg snow pushers (for backhoes, compact tractors, loaders, skid steers), and DumperDogg dump inserts. Supporting these branded offerings is a broad range of truck tool boxes (underbody, crossover, gull wing, topsider, backpack styles), lighting (DOT, warning, work lights), electrical (backup cameras, alarms), towing (hitches, pintle hooks, couplers), hydraulics (reservoirs, pumps, valves), tarp systems, cargo control, and hardware categories. The company manufactures in the USA at its Northeast Ohio facility with engineering, assembly, and quality testing operations.

Product and service21 records
1SnowDogg Snow Plows
CategorySnow Removal Equipment
2SnowDogg Municipal Snow Plows
3SnowDogg SKTE Series Skid Steer Plows
4SaltDogg Salt Spreaders
5SaltDogg Anti-Ice Systems
6SaltDogg Pre-Wet Systems
7ScoopDogg Snow Pushers
8DumperDogg Dump Inserts
9Truck Tool Boxes
10Lighting Products
11Electrical Products
12Towing Products
13Truck and Trailer Hardware
14Hydraulics
15Tarp Systems
16Cargo Control
17Truck Equipment and Accessories
18Road Equipment
19Cables and Controls
20Pneumatics
21PTO Driveline
Scale indicator3 records

Each record includes

Type, Value, Description, Source

Partnership4 partners
Strategic tierCoreTypeTechnology or Integration
Description

Vehicle compatibility partnerships with Ford for SnowDogg plow mounts, vehicle mounts, and truck accessories. Products designed to fit Ford F-150, F-250, F-350, F-450, F-550 trucks and their variants.

Strategic tierCoreTypeTechnology or Integration
Description

Vehicle compatibility partnerships with GM/Chevrolet for SnowDogg plow mounts, vehicle mounts, and truck accessories. Products designed to fit Silverado 1500, 2500, 3500 and their variants.

Strategic tierCoreTypeTechnology or Integration
Description

Vehicle compatibility partnerships with RAM for SnowDogg plow mounts, vehicle mounts, and truck accessories. Products designed to fit RAM 1500, 2500, 3500, 4500 trucks.

Strategic tierCoreTypeChannel Partner/ Reseller/ Distributor
Description

Government purchasing cooperative that awards contracts to vendors for the benefit of members. Buyers Products holds a Sourcewell contract for truck equipment products.

Recent move6 records

Each record includes

Date, Type, Title, Description, Source

Expansion highlight5 records

Each record includes

Type, Description

Peers10 records
TypeDirect peer
Description

Long-standing manufacturer of snow plows and ice control equipment for trucks. Competes head-to-head with SnowDogg in the same vehicle-mount snow plow category and shares the same dealer and municipal customer base.

TypeBroad incumbent
Description

NYSE-listed parent of Fisher, Western, SnowEx, and Blizzard snow & ice control equipment. Direct overlap with Buyers Products' SnowDogg and SaltDogg franchises, but at significantly larger scale and with broader service infrastructure.

TypeDirect peer
Description

Manufacturer of snow plows and salt spreaders for light trucks through heavy-duty municipal vehicles. Closely comparable product line to Buyers Products' SnowDogg and SaltDogg franchises.

TypeBroad incumbent
Description

Manufacturer of truck bodies, tool boxes, and upfit solutions for commercial fleets. Overlaps with Buyers Products' truck tool boxes, service body toppers, and fleet upfit categories.

TypeRegional player
Description

European manufacturer of truck tool boxes, storage, and accessories. Comparable product category to Buyers Products' truck tool box line but primarily serving EMEA markets rather than direct US competition.

TypeDirect peer
Description

Municipal-focused manufacturer of snow & ice equipment, dump bodies, and related truck equipment. Comparable to Buyers Products' MDS combination dump spreaders and municipal plow lines.

TypeDirect peer
Description

Manufacturer of snow and ice control equipment, including plows, spreaders, and snow pushers for commercial and municipal use. Direct competitor in municipal and contractor segments.

TypeDirect peer
Description

Snow plow and ice control equipment manufacturer targeting commercial and residential truck owners. Overlaps with Buyers Products' SnowDogg line and shares the dealer-led distribution model.

TypeDirect peer
Description

Manufacturer of snow and ice control equipment including tailgate and hopper spreaders, walk-behind spreaders, and anti-ice systems. Direct overlap with SaltDogg spreader portfolio.

TypeBroad incumbent
Description

Manufacturer of refuse and dump bodies plus related truck equipment. Comparable to Buyers Products' DumperDogg dump inserts and MDS combination dump spreaders, though at a much larger scale and broader customer base.

Market position
Strengths4 records

Each record includes

Headline, Details, Source

Weaknesses4 records

Each record includes

Headline, Details, Source

Competitive moat5 records

Each record includes

Type, Details

Key risks6 records

Each record includes

Headline, Details, Source

Key highlights6 records

Each record includes

Headline, Details, Source

Customer concentration

Classification, Details

Named customers4 records

Each record includes

Name, Industry, Type, Use case, Source, UUID

Segment4 records

Each record includes

Title, Type, Primary, Description, Pain point addressed, Use case, Source

Ideal customer profile3 records

Each record includes

Profile, Firmographic size, Sales motion, Sales cycle length, Buying structure, Purchase trigger, Buyer persona, Geography, Industry vertical, Primary use case, Description, Pain points, Evidence proof points, Target buyer

Technology focused
No
API detail
Has APIbool
No

Docs URL, Description

Integration2 records

Each record includes

Title, Type, Description, Source

AI maturity
App detail

Has app

Feature5 records

Each record includes

Title, Differentiator, Description, Source

Core technology
Revenue estimate
Valuation estimate
Number of profiles
No data
No data
Funding overview

Funding stage, Last funding date, Total funding USD

Funding rounds

Each record includes

Round, Amount USD, Date, Pre money valuation, Total investors, Investors, News

Investors

Each record includes

Name, Type, Date of entry, Rounds participated, Website

Funding detail is available on the Subscription and Enterprise plan.Contact sales →

M&A

Each record includes

Name, Acquisition type, Announced date, Completed date, Status, Website, News

Investment

Each record includes

Name, Round, Announced date, Lead investor, Website, News

M&A and investment is available on the Subscription and Enterprise plan.Contact sales →

Buyers Products

Commercial Truck Equipment Manufacturingbuyersproducts.com

Buyers Products is a privately held, USA-based manufacturer of heavy-duty truck and trailer equipment, founded in 1946, selling SnowDogg snow plows, SaltDogg spreaders, DumperDogg dump inserts, and truck tool boxes through a United States dealer network to municipalities, contractors, property managers, and individual pickup truck owners.

What Buyers Products does

Buyers Products is a privately held, fully integrated manufacturer of truck and trailer equipment founded in 1946 and headquartered in Mentor, Ohio. The company designs, engineers, manufactures, and assembles its products in the United States across a broad portfolio organized around branded product lines: SnowDogg snow plows (V-blades, straight blades, municipal plows for trucks, UTVs, and skid steers), SaltDogg spreaders (tailgate, hopper, municipal, anti-ice, and pre-wet systems), ScoopDogg snow pushers for backhoes, loaders, and skid steers, DumperDogg hydraulic dump inserts for pickup trucks, and a comprehensive range of truck tool boxes, lighting, towing, hydraulics, tarp systems, and cargo control products.

The company's technology is rooted in mechanical, hydraulic, and electrical engineering for heavy-duty vehicle applications, including proprietary features such as the RapidLink quick-attach plow mounting system and motorized dump inserts (3 HP Monarch motor, 6,000 lb payload capacity). Buyers Products sells exclusively through an authorized dealer network across the United States (no direct-to-consumer e-commerce), with a Where To Buy/Dealer Locator on its website, trade show presence at Work Truck Show, APWA PWX, NATDA, and EMTSP National Show, and a Sourcewell cooperative contract that facilitates municipal and government procurement. Pricing is quote-based and not publicly disclosed, products are sold as one-time hardware purchases with no recurring subscription component, and the company has recently introduced financing options for snow and ice equipment.

The customer base spans four primary segments: municipalities and government agencies (snow and ice management on public roads), contractors and landscapers (commercial snow removal and material hauling), property managers (commercial property snow removal), and individual pickup truck owners (residential snow removal, tool storage, and cargo management). Vehicle compatibility is engineered for major OEMs including Ford, GM/Chevrolet, and RAM as core fitments, with additional coverage for Jeep, Toyota, Nissan, Kubota, Polaris, Can-Am, John Deere, and Bobcat. The company is currently expanding its Mentor manufacturing facility to more than double its plant size, indicating a capacity-build trajectory consistent with sustained operational scale.

Buyers Products firmographics

Firmographics
Name
Buyers Products
Legal name
Buyers Products
Website
https://buyersproducts.com
Company type
Private
Founded year
1946
Operating status
Operating
Headcount range
251–500 employees
Short description
Buyers Products is a privately held, USA-based manufacturer of heavy-duty truck and trailer equipment, founded in 1946, selling SnowDogg snow plows, SaltDogg spreaders, DumperDogg dump inserts, and truck tool boxes through a United States dealer network to municipalities, contractors, property managers, and individual pickup truck owners.
Ownership category
akta.pro rank

Where Buyers Products is headquartered

Location

Headquarters

HQ city
Mentor
HQ country
United States
HQ region
North America

Offices1 record

Markets served

Buyers Products business model

Business model
GTM type
B2B
Offering type
Hardware or Manufacturing
Cost components
Supply Chain, Personnel, Operations, Technology or R&D, Marketing or Sales, Infrastructure

Revenue model

  1. Hardware/Equipment Sales: Sale of physical truck equipment products including snow plows, spreaders, dump inserts, tool boxes, lighting, towing equipment, and accessories. Products are sold as one-time purchases with no recurring subscription component.

Pricing tiers

ModelBillingPrice
Unit PricingPay-as-you-goProduct pricing varies by category and specifications

Go-to-market motion1 record

Distribution channels1 record

Marketing channels5 records

Buyers Products product offering

Product offering

Core offering

Buyers Products is a fully integrated USA-based manufacturer of commercial truck and trailer equipment, designing and producing snow plows (SnowDogg), salt and material spreaders (SaltDogg), snow pushers (ScoopDogg), hydraulic dump inserts (DumperDogg), truck tool boxes, lighting, towing, hydraulics, tarp systems, and cargo control products at its Mentor, Ohio facility. The company sells its products primarily through an authorized dealer network across the United States, serving municipalities, contractors, landscapers, and individual truck owners.

Product overview

Buyers Products is a fully integrated manufacturer and leader in the truck equipment industry, founded in 1946. The company offers a comprehensive portfolio of branded products organized around commercial truck, trailer, and snow/ice equipment applications. The core product lines include SnowDogg snow plows (V-blades, straight blades, municipal plows for trucks, UTVs, and skid steers), SaltDogg spreaders (tailgate, hopper, municipal, anti-ice systems), ScoopDogg snow pushers (for backhoes, compact tractors, loaders, skid steers), and DumperDogg dump inserts. Supporting these branded offerings is a broad range of truck tool boxes (underbody, crossover, gull wing, topsider, backpack styles), lighting (DOT, warning, work lights), electrical (backup cameras, alarms), towing (hitches, pintle hooks, couplers), hydraulics (reservoirs, pumps, valves), tarp systems, cargo control, and hardware categories. The company manufactures in the USA at its Northeast Ohio facility with engineering, assembly, and quality testing operations.

Differentiator

Problem solved

Functional benefit

Brands

  • SnowDogg: Snow plow brand for trucks, UTVs, and skid steers, featuring various models including V-blades and straight blades for commercial and residential snow removal applications.
  • SaltDogg
  • ScoopDogg
  • DumperDogg
  • LiftDogg
  • GuardDogg

Products and services

  • SnowDogg Snow Plows
  • SnowDogg Municipal Snow Plows
  • SnowDogg SKTE Series Skid Steer Plows
  • SaltDogg Salt Spreaders
  • SaltDogg Anti-Ice Systems
  • SaltDogg Pre-Wet Systems
  • ScoopDogg Snow Pushers
  • DumperDogg Dump Inserts
  • Truck Tool Boxes
  • Lighting Products
  • Electrical Products
  • Towing Products
  • Truck and Trailer Hardware
  • Hydraulics
  • Tarp Systems
  • Cargo Control
  • Truck Equipment and Accessories
  • Road Equipment
  • Cables and Controls
  • Pneumatics
  • PTO Driveline

Quantifiable outcome

  • DumperDogg max payload capacity of 6000 lb with up to 3 cubic yards
  • +2 more outcomes

Companies that use Buyers Products

Customer profile

Named customers4 records

Segments4 records

Ideal customer profiles3 records

Buyers Products technology and API

Technology

Technology focussed No

API detail

Has API
No
API docs
API detail

Core technology

AI maturity

App detail

Integration2 records

Feature5 records

Buyers Products partnerships and signals

Strategic signal

Partnerships

Four partnerships are on record, tiered core.

  • FordcoreTechnology or IntegrationVehicle compatibility partnerships with Ford for SnowDogg plow mounts, vehicle mounts, and truck accessories. Products designed to fit Ford F-150, F-250, F-350, F-450, F-550 trucks and their variants.
  • Chevrolet/GMCcoreTechnology or IntegrationVehicle compatibility partnerships with GM/Chevrolet for SnowDogg plow mounts, vehicle mounts, and truck accessories. Products designed to fit Silverado 1500, 2500, 3500 and their variants.
  • RAMcoreTechnology or IntegrationVehicle compatibility partnerships with RAM for SnowDogg plow mounts, vehicle mounts, and truck accessories. Products designed to fit RAM 1500, 2500, 3500, 4500 trucks.
  • SourcewellcoreChannel Partner/ Reseller/ DistributorGovernment purchasing cooperative that awards contracts to vendors for the benefit of members. Buyers Products holds a Sourcewell contract for truck equipment products.

Scale indicators3 records

Recent moves6 records

Expansion highlights5 records

Buyers Products competitors and assessment

Company assessment

Direct peers

  • Meyer Products: Long-standing manufacturer of snow plows and ice control equipment for trucks. Competes head-to-head with SnowDogg in the same vehicle-mount snow plow category and shares the same dealer and municipal customer base.
  • Boss Snowplow: Manufacturer of snow plows and salt spreaders for light trucks through heavy-duty municipal vehicles. Closely comparable product line to Buyers Products' SnowDogg and SaltDogg franchises.
  • Henderson Products: Municipal-focused manufacturer of snow & ice equipment, dump bodies, and related truck equipment. Comparable to Buyers Products' MDS combination dump spreaders and municipal plow lines.
  • Hiniker Company: Manufacturer of snow and ice control equipment, including plows, spreaders, and snow pushers for commercial and municipal use. Direct competitor in municipal and contractor segments.
  • Sno-Way International: Snow plow and ice control equipment manufacturer targeting commercial and residential truck owners. Overlaps with Buyers Products' SnowDogg line and shares the dealer-led distribution model.
  • TrynEx International (SnowEx / SpreadEx): Manufacturer of snow and ice control equipment including tailgate and hopper spreaders, walk-behind spreaders, and anti-ice systems. Direct overlap with SaltDogg spreader portfolio.

Broad incumbents

  • Douglas Dynamics: NYSE-listed parent of Fisher, Western, SnowEx, and Blizzard snow & ice control equipment. Direct overlap with Buyers Products' SnowDogg and SaltDogg franchises, but at significantly larger scale and with broader service infrastructure.
  • Reading Truck: Manufacturer of truck bodies, tool boxes, and upfit solutions for commercial fleets. Overlaps with Buyers Products' truck tool boxes, service body toppers, and fleet upfit categories.
  • Heil Environmental (a brand of Dover): Manufacturer of refuse and dump bodies plus related truck equipment. Comparable to Buyers Products' DumperDogg dump inserts and MDS combination dump spreaders, though at a much larger scale and broader customer base.

Regional players

Market position

Strengths4 records

Weaknesses4 records

Competitive moat5 records

Key risks6 records

Key highlights6 records

Customer concentration

Buyers Products social profiles

Digital presence

Buyers Products financial estimates

Financial estimate

Revenue estimate

Valuation estimate

Buyers Products leadership team

Management profile

Number of profiles

Buyers Products funding detail

Funding detail

Funding overview

Funding rounds

Investors

Funding detail is available on the Subscription and Enterprise plan.Contact sales →

Buyers Products M&A and investment

M&A and investment

M&A

Investments

M&A and investment is available on the Subscription and Enterprise plan.Contact sales →

Frequently asked questions about Buyers Products

What does Buyers Products do?

Buyers Products is a fully integrated USA-based manufacturer of commercial truck and trailer equipment, designing and producing snow plows (SnowDogg), salt and material spreaders (SaltDogg), snow pushers (ScoopDogg), hydraulic dump inserts (DumperDogg), truck tool boxes, lighting, towing, hydraulics, tarp systems, and cargo control products at its Mentor, Ohio facility. The company sells its products primarily through an authorized dealer network across the United States, serving municipalities, contractors, landscapers, and individual truck owners.

Is Buyers Products a public or private company?

Buyers Products is a private company. It is classified as unknown and is currently operating.

When was Buyers Products founded?

Buyers Products was founded in 1946. It employs 251 to 500 people.

Where is Buyers Products based?

Buyers Products is headquartered in Mentor, United States, in the North America region.

How does Buyers Products make money?

One revenue line is on record: hardware/Equipment Sales.

Who are Buyers Products's main competitors?

Direct peers on record are Meyer Products, Boss Snowplow, Henderson Products, Hiniker Company, Sno-Way International and TrynEx International (SnowEx / SpreadEx). Broad incumbents are Douglas Dynamics, Reading Truck and Heil Environmental (a brand of Dover). Daken S.p.A. (manufacturer of truck tool boxes & accessories) is listed as a regional player.

Does Buyers Products have an API?

No public API is recorded for Buyers Products.

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FinancialContent Business PageAmerican Van Equipment Expands Work Truck Solutions with Buyers Products, Prime Design and Max Rack OfferingsAmerican Van Equipment has expanded its work truck solutions by adding Buyers Products, Prime Design, and Max Rack offerings to its portfolio. This addition provides contractors and fleet operators with enhanced options for truck box storage, ladder rack access, and cab protection. The move aims to help professionals configure their vehicles more effectively for construction, roofing, landscaping, and utility work.HrtodayMisty Hejduk Appointed Senior Director of Human Resources at Buyers Products CompanyMisty Hejduk has been appointed Senior Director of Human Resources at Buyers Products Company, a leading American manufacturer of equipment for the work truck industry established in 1946. She brings over two decades of HR leadership experience, most recently serving as Vice President of Human Resources at INEOS Pigments USA, and previously holding roles at Cristal. The appointment is intended to support the company's human resources strategy, workforce development, and operational excellence initiatives aligned with continued growth.PR NewswireRepresentatives from Insite Software, Buyers Products to Keynote at B2B OnlineInsite Software announced that its founder, Brian Strojny, will co-present a keynote case study with Buyers Products CIO Jim Nerone at the B2B Online conference on April 29, 2019. The presentation details how Buyers Products utilized Insite's digital commerce solutions to enhance personalization, efficiency, and revenues in their B2B eCommerce operations. Insite Software is also sponsoring the event and exhibiting at Booth 101 during the conference held in Chicago.